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Central Norwalk roundup: Move to stop DiScala plan; a Wall Street train ‘stop’

From left, Norwalk Parking Authority Chairman Dick Brescia, Norwalk Public Library Board of Trustees Chairman Alex Knopp, Norwalk Mayor Harry Rilling, Norwalk Public Library Assistant Director Sherelle Harris, Norwalk Public Library Trustee Patsy Brescia and Senior Civil Engineer Vanessa Valadares cut a ribbon Thursday for the new parking lot next to the Norwalk Public Library.

An illustration for the Wall Street Train Stop idea.

NORWALK, Conn. – Here’s a collection of Central Norwalk doings:

  • Uprising against Head of the Harbor North
  • Move for Wall Street train STOP
  • Library parking lot open – to all, temporarily

 

King: Nothing new on DiScala’s plan for Main Street lot

Nearly 1,000 people have signed a petition to “Save Norwalk’s Historic Downtown” from a plan to sell “the Main/High Street municipal parking lot to a private developer to build apartments and a private garage.”

Jackie Lightfield of Norwalk 2.0 started the petition Monday after NancyOnNorwalk quoted Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Tim Sheehan as saying “There is a draft agreement that still is being negotiated between the city” and developer M.F. DiScala for the Head of the Harbor North development, which would involve an apartment building over the Main Street lot.

The city would retain the public’s rights to park on the lot, in the draft agreement that was presented more than a year ago. Construction would take 16 to 18 months, during which time people would be forced to seek alternative parking areas, Jason Enters of M.F. DiScala said at the time.

“The businesses surrounding the lot and the public park will lose parking that they depend on,” Lightfield’s petition states. “Please sign our petition and say NO to selling or giving away the Main High Street lot.”

As of 2 a.m. Friday, 979 people had signed the petition.

Assistant to the Mayor Laoise King said in a Thursday email that Sheehan’s comment “is accurate in that there is no final agreement so it still needs to be negotiated – however, there have been no recent discussions between the city and the preferred developer…. There has been no change in status with this project.”

Sheehan is out of the office until Monday.

“I believe the developer has been focusing on completing {Head of the Harbor South},” King wrote. “I am sure discussions will begin again once they finish, but that process will include an open and public process before any final agreement is made.”

M.F. DiScala said more than a year ago that it would build an 80-apartment building over the lot, work to make the lot more level and replace its 91 public parking spaces with 93 public parking spaces.

The project drew criticism during the 2017 mayoral campaign with unaffiliated candidate Lisa Brinton Thomson charging that the city was planning to “give away” valuable land for a dollar.  Sheehan responded that “a conditioned Option Agreement” was being discussed, which would have a deadline for DiScala to buy the property and an associated fee, with the value of the land determined by an appraiser. City approvals would be factored into the appraisal.

Enters said in March that M.F. DiScala hopes to get an agreement by the spring.

“We have done a schematic design and we have an as-of-right building to go there and we are working with Redevelopment to get an agreement in place,” he said.

Lightfield’s response to a Thursday NancyOnNorwalk email did not comment directly on the Main Street lot issue.

 

 

Not a station, but a stop

A group of committed Wall Street area stakeholders have adjusted their appeal for a Wall Street train facility by calling for a Wall Street train “stop.”

This would be not a station or a platform, but just a concrete pad level with the train, said Wall Street Neighborhood Association Board member Jason Milligan on Wednesday.

“The train goes by there 14 times per day. We just need to get the train to briefly stop to let people on and off just like Merritt 7 stop does now. Let’s get a trial going where we measure the amount of riders for a year or two. If ridership is high we can explore a platform or station…” Milligan wrote Wednesday to Mayor Harry Rilling, State Senate Majority Leader Bob Duff (D-25) and Corporation Counsel Mario Coppola.

“I think Jason’s ideas are great.  The more involved knowledgeable people are in the process the better the outcome,” said Mike McGuire, the driving force behind the push for a Wall Street train station.

“The best ‘tonic’ for getting the Wall Street area vibrant and thriving again is to reactive a Wall Street Train Stop,” McGuire said. “You can apply all the incentives as noted in the Innovation District but they will only go so far, plus you get a huge pushback from taxpayers that don’t want to subsidize businesses.    It’s never a good plan politically to alienated your voters when a simple, elegant solution that would make you look like a star is available.”

Rilling met recently with Connecticut Department of Transportation Commissioner James Redeker and discussed a Wall Street train station.

The city isn’t going to build a platform “unless we get people to say, ‘Yes, we will stop there.’ According to Redeker, the answer right now is no,” Rilling said Thursday. “Now, I don’t know whether that will change. I have written a letter, I have asked about it. Redeker said that he doesn’t see this in the near future.”

“It’s an interesting idea, but there are so many considerations. You know, we have a bus terminal right there, we have the shuttles that are going back and forth to the railroad station,” Rilling said. “They have one on Glover Avenue. They go a couple of miles and have to stop again, and pick up the speed again. I don’t know if Metro North would agree that this is an ideal location. Now maybe at some point. I don’t know whether you build it and hope they will come or whether they come and then you build it. So, we’ll continue to explore the option, I just don’t know if it’s something that would be embraced by Metro North or ConnDOT.”

Asked if Redeker gave any reasons for denying a Wall Street train station, Rilling said, “He didn’t really get into it, he just talked about who is going to build the station.”

The cement pad would be paid for locally, Milligan said.

“Everyone agrees that having the ability to get on or off the train at Wall st would be great,” Milligan wrote. “The disagreement comes with the potential cost, and if it is worth it. A ‘stop’ should be free or close to it, and we could monitor how mush usage it generates. Any cost that is associated with creating a flat pad to get on or off the train could be easily raised privately or potentially funded by the parking authority or some other city agency.”

McGuire wrote:

“Interesting statistic – the Wall Street neighborhood is the 3rd largest CBD (Central Business District) in terms of total office space and residential housing units in Fairfield County, its only surpassed by Stamford and Bridgeport for sheer size (total square footage of space used for office and apartments – see attachment).

“The Wall Street Neighborhood has seen some pretty amazing growth over the past two decades, as had most of the Norwalk Commercial Districts.  The best thing the City can do for Wall Street now is clean up the POKO/Duleep messes, and fight for a Train Stop, then get out of the way and let the private sector take over.  Now that would lead to real Grand List Growth.”

Wall St Train Stop

 

Parking open next to library

Norwalk officials got out the scissors Thursday to celebrate the 38 newly-created parking spots next to the Norwalk Public Library.

“This is actually something that has been needed for a very, very long time,” Rilling said after the ceremonial ribbon cutting along Mott Avenue. “…. (Lack of parking) been a problem here for many, many years. It’s not something that started on my watch, I said it will be something that will end on my watch and it did. So, we got it done.”

Former Mayor Alex Knopp, Norwalk Public Library Board of Trustees Chairman, thanked Parking Authority Chairman Dick Brescia for putting the project first on the construction list for this “summer,” and Senior Civil Engineer Vanessa Valadares was lauded for getting the work done on schedule, in two weeks.

The new parking lot, which will be free for library patrons, is the product of a deal made between the city and Milligan, a developer who owns the lot.

Milligan was set to build a 69-unit apartment building on the lot, but Knopp led the Library Board to appeal the Zoning Commission’s approval of the project. Eventually, the city paid Milligan $460,000 for a six-year purchase option for his property, with a fixed purchase price of $4,885,000.

Rilling, in the run up to last year’s election, said the library parking problem would end on his watch.

The 38 parking spaces include two handicapped spots. Gates are not yet installed and anyone can use the lot; Valderes said she expects the gates to be installed in June and for parking rates to be enforced in July.

Library patrons will be able to get their tickets validated and park for free. Other parkers will pay the standard Parking Authority rate of 50 cents an hour, she said.

There were formerly 28 spaces in the lot, but Milligan closed it off for more than a year as the legal battle wore on.

“We are very grateful for the Mayor’s support, which made the lease arrangement possible,” Knopp said.

“It looks rather beautiful, I love the fence down at the end,” Rilling said. “So, this will provide parking for library patrons. I don’t have to tell anybody, drive through here, it’s tough to find a parking spot. Now they have the area where they can park.”

There were also some quips.

“My wife is the vice chairman of the library and if we hadn’t gotten this thing put together, life would have been very miserable,” Brescia said.

Rilling made note of the weather, saying, “As we enter winter, we are able to get this lot paved before the snow started.”

Valderes noted that it snowed while the lot was being constructed, and it still was done in the planned two week timeframe.

“Gradually, we keep getting a little more parking, which is fabulous for the library. It allows us to get some additional things here for our city,” Patsy Brescia said.

Knopp in June said purchase is only one option for the property, calling it ‘entirely possible that the city could acquire what it needs for library expansion and parking with no additional expenditure at all.”

City officials would “explore all of the available opportunities and options to its advantage,” he said.

“We would love to have a better project,” Milligan said. “I hope the city never spends a dime acquiring the property, either. That’s not what we’re doing.. Stay tuned. I am sure the brightest minds will be involved in expanding the library.”

Those efforts have not started, Knopp said Thursday, calling it a priority to “use the opportunity created by the option to purchase to provide the parking.”

“Today is the end of that process and now we’ll start working on the other aspects of the plan,” Knopp said.

Milligan said Wednesday that the parking lot looks great.

“I am very happy. It certainly better than what it was,” he said.

Of the plans for the future, he said, “I would be lying if I told you I was completely satisfied. I will tell you that I am very eager to kickstart that conversation. Thjs is the first step, hopefully that will begin soon.”

Knopp said there are “really two big aspects” to the process ahead.

First, “Start a planning process that involves a lot of public consultations and dialogue about future needs and services that the library should provide to people in Norwalk,” Knopp said. “The second is to start discussions about the various configurations of land use and acquisition that would make that possible.”

42 comments

Wondering April 20, 2018 at 7:43 am

…about Norwalk’s “authorities” (Parking, Redevelopment, Oak Hills, etc.). Does the City provide things like staff support, engineering services, office space, etc. for some or all of them? Weren’t authorities originally set up to be self-supporting? From article looks like City engineering did work for this Parking Authority project.

Rem April 20, 2018 at 8:08 am

Great idea with the train stop. From preparing the foundation to opening to the public it can be done in as little as a month. Just be wary of “feature creep”, is it just a concrete platform or then do you need lighting, ticket machine, or protected waiting enclosure, etc?

I would call on more pressure on the DOT. After all, Norwalk is getting the “Walk” Railroad Bridge forced down our throats, upgrades to other rail lines and yards meanwhile Norwalk businesses and residents in the area just have to deal with disruption that it causes. There was even something about electrifying the Danbury branch line. So this is a perfect olive branch on the behalf of Commissioner Redeker to offer a train stop in light of all of this forced construction. What I find particularly interesting is that when the private sector offers to pay for the platform there still isn’t any interest. And yet CT DOT is proposing a traffic roundabout in Wilton at a projected cost of $2.5 million (to replace a four-way stop intersection). So the reasoning that there isn’t any funding for a train stop is not completely true…

I’m curious if this platform could be “gifted” to the city, and as such, the platform would *need* to be used and hence the train stop is born…

Nate Soffio April 20, 2018 at 8:18 am

I thought the comparative pictures are worth a thousand words…Great job photographer.

This endeavor is a no brainier. The station is essential to revive a beautiful and historic neighborhood and an 8 minute bus ride to the new mall.

Lisa Brinton Thomson April 20, 2018 at 8:26 am

@ Wondering – you bring up a topic near and dear to my heart – third party governance agencies.

Organizations like Redevelopment and the Parking Authority operate autonomously and outside public view and accountability. It has been well documented the damaging role third party agencies played in cases like Detroit and Puerto Rico, notwithstanding the backdrop of a failing local economy and residential mass exodus. Sound familiar? I have long argued for charter revision (these agencies fall outside of it) so we can get our planning and finances in order. Unfortunately, that topic appears to not be as pressing as two mayors posing for yet another chain link removal – ribbon cutting photo op 🙂

Isabelle Hargrove April 20, 2018 at 8:54 am

Regarding the Head of The Harbor North Project

I wish the culture at city hall could change so Norwalk achieves its full potential and strives.

Here you have the mayor, his spokesperson and the director of Redevelopment feigning ignorance at the cause of the suddenly renewed concerns of residents and business owners and reassuring the good folks of Norwalk that nothing new is happening in the negotiations between the city and the developer.

This is called lying by omission and it should not surprise this administration that it breaks the trust Norwalk has in its government.

While nothing is technically happening on these negotiations, a LOT is happening to the area this project would sit on via a new Innovation District Incentive ordinance that will drastically change the tax-burden on the project and clear the way for a very profitable deal for the developer. The Planning Committee of the Common Council is moving quickly on this Innovation District Incentive Ordinance drafted by Tim Sheehan, the executive director of the Redevelopment Agency.

Transparency would dictate that this ordinance be discussed in the context of this issue. Norwalkers should demand it. Robust discussions on major developments and tax incentives should be encouraged and it would force city hall and Redevelopment to do their due diligence on behalf of Norwalkers. It would be a good thing, at least for Norwalkers.

Rick April 20, 2018 at 9:59 am

Redevelopment and the Parking Authority have gone out of their way to promote things in the city that seem not to be what the city wants.

Susan Sweitzer, senior project manager of the Norwalk Redevelopment Agency, said. the area has been branded as SoNo/ insisting its a up and coming entertainment hub in Ct. A place where millennial’s want to live.

Wonder if millennial’s they take trains?

This is good?

liquor licenses suspended between November 2017 and January 2018, according to public information from the Department of Consumer Protection’s Liquor Control Commission.

Suspensions ranging from one to three days and fines between $500 and $1,000 were meted out for various offenses, such as selling liquor to minors, consumption on premise, sanitation and failure to hang permits in plain view

Now Susan has new news , instead of working on making Norwalk a destination now its only known as one big bar.

http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-norwalk-fairfield-university-underage-drinkers-20180420-story.html

http://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/fairfield/pd-underage-fairfield-university-students-among-those-found-in-norwalk-bar/1131136734

The above post does suggest what the Redevelopment does, is this what Norwalk wants or does it want a train station on wall st?

Maybe if the city cleans up its act the State may take us seriously on many issues, but as long as you have Redevelopment agency and many others who run the city who were never elected the city will continue to fight for things that make sense for Norwalk.

The wrong people are in charge of Norwalk simply look at this train station and then look at who runs the city.

Change out the politicians you will change the city.

So for now its happy hour in Sono now that Johnny is closed for a couple of days a short walk from the Sono train platform.

Another Opinion April 20, 2018 at 11:41 am

If not green lighting all these apartment complexes wasn’t enough. I just heard that the zoning department has issued an application to convert a residence into a 5 room nursing home facility in West Norwalk. Supposedly in a AAA residential private street . . . bye bye grand list growth

Nancy McGuire April 20, 2018 at 11:59 am

Two Points:
1) People do not want to take a bus to the SONO station. Millennials do not take busses. We have lost many tenants because they cannot get Millennials up here from Stamford and New York, or down here from Stratford and Bridgeport. They do not want to sit on I-95 from points north, or wait for a bus, in order to wait at stop lights, to get to another train station, to wait for that train – which will exasperated once the mall is open.

2) The start/stop theory is not supported by these facts:
The distance from the SONO Train Station to the Wall Street Train Stop is 1.63 mile.
The distance from the Wall Street Train Stop to the Merritt Train Stop is 2.10 mile.
The distance from the Stamford Train Station to the Glenbrook Station is 2.07 miles (spur)
The distance from the Glenbrook Station to the Sprindale Station is 1.27 miles (spur)
The distance from the Noroton Height Station to the Darien Station is 1.62 mile (main line)
The distance from the Darien Station to the Rowayton Station is 1.33 mile (main line)
The Wall Street Train Stop is more than merited. It is needed.

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 20, 2018 at 1:49 pm

Deputy Mayor Laoise King wrote that the sale of the Main High street lot to DiScala will “include an open and public process before any final decisions are made.” Wil this process be similar to filling seats on Rilling’s recently announced Ad Hoc committee, regarding which the mayor allegedly said that certain of his opponents would not be welcome to participate? Tsk! Tsk! So much for an open process. Sounds about as open as his commission appointment process. As long as Rilling gets to hand pick the appointments, who really cares about the land use decisions at the end of the day, or whether or not the Grand List grows or our taxes go up and up and up year after year after year!

All the same, very nice to see Rilling and former mayor Knopp looking so carefree cutting a fake ribbon—AGAIN—on a lot that Knopp worked so hard to drive up the price on by taking legal action so the city could pay double what it was worth. Bravo! Way to show the little ladies how this mayor stuff gets done, boys!

Bill Nightingale April 20, 2018 at 6:49 pm

Why on earth would we allow Tim Sheehan and Redevelopment to negotiate a conditioned Option Agreement” after they screwed up Poko so badly. Sheehan should be held accountable. Not be given a mandate to double down on his blunders.

Again, why do we have this constantly failing Redevelopment Agency still operating in our town. It needs to be abolished!

Jason Milligan April 20, 2018 at 10:07 pm

Harold Cobin,

“Danbury Branch trains require an elevated platform. A concrete pad will not work.” ???

Can you elaborate?

Merritt 7 stop is on the Danbury line and does not have an elevated platform?? See above pictures in the article.

Harold April 20, 2018 at 11:22 pm

Jason – need to do your homework on this. CTDOT is proposed to fix Merritt 7 and eliminate that low level platform. What you are proposing adds another low level platform. If Wall Street has Merritt 7 like ridership, then this would be a waste of time and money.

Micheal McGuire April 21, 2018 at 7:32 am

@Harold

Why would this be a waste of time? True a “station” would be a preferred. But in these days of limited to no funding this “stop” becomes a viable option.

The demographics are very different as well. Merritt 7 is a mature, large business location. The Wall Street neighborhood is the the largest concentration of small business office in Fairfield County. Plus is has more newly built, or soon to be built apartments than anywhere else other than Stamford. Add in its “downtown” appeal with over 1.0 million square feet of retail space, almost all of it catering to local business, and you have all the ingredients for a thriving downtown live-work business district, the “holy-grail” for the TOD crowd.

But you need one more thing – easy access to a train. Want some proof? Look to the 4th Regional Plan just released by RPA, or Norwalk’s RDA push for TOD zoning around SoNo station. Or East Norwalk stations newly approved development. Or Merritt 7’s 700 plus apartment units.

All this development has one theme – access to rail. It’s the million dollar amenity.

Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Jlightfield April 21, 2018 at 8:32 am

There is delightful irony in this news post. Here we have a former mayor proudly opening a new parking lot on one end of Wall Street when just 300 feet away from the parking he gave away for a dollar remains closed to the public.

Meanwhile, the Redevelopment Agency keeps pushing its convoluted arguments for its existence by pimping an ”innovation district” despite any evidence of innovation and packaging up local property tax breaks to lure housing developments.

We’ve been here before. The Agency insisted that in order to lure investment, the enterprise zone needed to be extended to get something happening at 95/7.

Let’s remember that CT Limo, Maritime Motors, a gas station and Braswell antiques, were once contributing to Norwalk’s economy there. But bigger and better mixed-use development was going to come if the right tax incentives were offered. We ended up with single-use retail and a reduced tax base. Plus 3k plus in parking spaces overlooking our million dollar view of the harbor.

It is this context that sparks the grassroots effort to stop the Redevelopment Agency from pushing a Land Disposition Agreement to ”sell” the Main/High street parking lot, to any developer. The option agreement from 2003, (see the root cause pattern?) is up for renewal in several weeks.

Or, maybe it is the ”selling” of Smith street, and it’s on-street parking for a development that replaced that parking as far away from the businesses on Wall Street so that 15 spaces could be given to the Historical Commission.

Norwalk needs a new plan and City Hall needs to rethink how it all its departments and agencies work towards planning our future.

We can’t keep finding out that things like the Redevelopment Agency is responsible for Smith Street and East Wall Street still a construction mess because the Redevelopment Agency is ”managing” a public works project that doesn’t meet city specs, like the road grade being off, drainage now complicated next to the watershed, and the cheap cinder block retaining wall that can’t possibly support the load of traffic projected to increase.

We can do better. We can acknowledge our past mistakes and move forward with new plans based on reviewing the lessons we’ve learned from what was optimistically promised and what we got in return.

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 21, 2018 at 9:43 am

@Jlightfield, in Norwalk, even hindsight isn’t always 20/20. And therein lies some of the entrenched thinking with regard to economic revitalization. The City plays a little musical chairs with commission seats. Mayors stay long enough to put their brand on the place—the Big Box era, the Apartment Era, etc. Your last paragraph crystallizes the essential dilemma. We cannot do better because we cannot acknowledge our past mistakes. Norwalk seems determined to continue in an endless logic loop where appeals to reason are received as insults and blamed for a broad refusal to open up the process to scrutiny and accountability. How can Norwalk learn from past mistakes when no one is willing to own them?

Sid Welker April 21, 2018 at 7:07 pm

@Chief Problem Solver.”Let’s remember that CT Limo, Maritime Motors, a gas station and Braswell antiques, were once contributing to Norwalk’s economy there.” That may be the dumbest thing you have every said. CT LIMO? Really? Braswell Antiques? Really? And run down gas station? Really? You are really grasping at straws. I also noticed you quoted selling in mentioning Smith St. Care to explain? While we’re at it could you provide me with your engineering degree. You seem to know everything about structural engineering now too. Lets leave that up to the construction men and women who work hard there and everywhere. Im starting to see why locals around town smile to your face and roll their eyes when you leave the room.

Just Learned April 21, 2018 at 7:13 pm

@Another Opinion – Yes that is correct and Norwalk Zoning should be ashamed of itself for permitting the conversion of a residence to a full fledged nursing home on a residential street in West Norwalk. It appears all the promises made by the mayor to clamp down zoning has not been fulfilled

@Donna S and Lisa Brinton Thompson, as one of the city’s most effective public advocates please take note as this can happen in any residential neighborhood.

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 21, 2018 at 10:14 pm

@just learned and @another opinion, the Fair Housing Act and the ADA allow for congregate living of this type. Whether a nursing home or drug rehab, the uses are protected. Thisis an area in need of regulation. The city has had time to get ahead of the curve here. And Senator Duff could introduce legislation to better control congregate living. Icing on the cake? If the nursing home is a non profit, the city is also losing tax revenue.

Rick April 21, 2018 at 10:26 pm

nursing home on a residential street in West Norwalk get use to it wait till it happens in Rowyaton.

Wait till the sober house opens next door to your house they don’t need permission our State reps have made sure of that.

Spend over 50 years making a home , bring up a family ,taxpayer in good standing so you can get kicked in the head by the Democratic party.

Norwalk justice

Jlightfield April 22, 2018 at 6:49 am

@sid welker, let’s see if I understand your key points; you can’t bother to understand the economic impact of property taxes, you are unaware the city sold Smith street, and you think that someone who can articulate an engineering problem must be required to have some engineering degree.

Well it kind of sounds like the mutterings of some old guy sitting at the end of the local dive bar opining after quaffing a few buds. The thing is while everyone is entitled to their opinion, there’s only one set of facts.

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 9:07 am

@Chief problem stirrer
#1 I was asking if you could provide the details of the Smith Street “selling” since for a normal Norwalk citizen you seem to know it all.
#2 In your case you may want to revisit on your what you classify as “cheap cinder block retaining wall”
You’re credibility is dwindling faster than your term on the P&Z Commission.(archives are amazingly fun to look through when your retired)
#3 What store front do you have in the downtown Wall St area? Or do you have an office? Im not seeing the connection with you and the Wall St area. More importantly why do you appoint yourself captain of the Wall St businesses. I watched the news 12
interview were you told the reporter that you’ve been at odds with the developer for over 10 years or something of that nature. Seems like you may have a vendetta?
#4 If there are only one sets of facts like you state then please start using the facts when presenting an agenda. On Nancys article with the link to your petition you have painted a one sided story to get the proverbial snowball rolling about the developer taking over the parking lot and the business owners losing the lot (just the petition,other places may have stated different) But you as well as the local businesses know thats not the case. But kuddos for getting the headline and your name in the paper. With false information and smearing you may be ready for another run at politics. When its all said and done maybe you can move down the block to a much bigger problem next to the tattoo parlor thats been sitting there for almost 10 years.

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 22, 2018 at 9:26 am

@Sid Welker, I applaud Jackie Lightfield’s passionate interest in preserving and protecting Wall Street from the Redevelopment Agency. Local activists rarely seek headlines or higher office. We simply can’t stand mismanagement. A surprising number of longtime Norwalk residents are clueless when it comes to the power of the Redevelopment Agency. Just like me. I’ve had to attend meetings, listen to people like Jackie, do my own digging, and read posts like yours, {…} to denigrate a concerned citizen without offering anything credible to back up your version of the truth. Norwalk is ready for a third party Sid, and maybe yuo’re the one to start it. You can call it the {…} Party. I won’t even charge a licensing fee for the use of the name. It’s on me. Cheers!
edited to remove ascribing of motives, a violation of the comments policy

Jlightfield April 22, 2018 at 12:18 pm

My my my @Sid Welker the spittle is flying for sure. It seems you are concerned about me than anything else, which is an odd thing when you think of it. Keep slugging back those six-packs, you’ve got all the time in the world.

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 12:47 pm

Never acquired the knack for drinking but keep grasping at that theory while avoiding the questions more relevant Im asking you. Please answer questions 1,3 and 4. Inquiring minds want to know!r

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 2:10 pm

@donna S, who are you again? Isnt it minute 14 in your 15 minutes from your tantrum incident a couple weeks back? I think I figured it out. You are Robin to Jackies Batman. As for me I would never run for office because {…} you and Jackie would never be happy. You will always pick the fly$hit out of the pepper.
edited to remove an insult, a violation of the comments policy. https://www.nancyonnorwalk.com/comment-guidelines/

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 22, 2018 at 2:25 pm

@Nancy, why am I edited to remove “ascribing of motives” but Sid Welker is allowed to use the comments policy as toilet paper?

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 22, 2018 at 2:31 pm

@Sid Welker, you asked that jlightfield “please answer” questions 1, 3 and 4. However, only three is a question. The rest is diatribe in my opinion. Sid, you wouldn’t run for office because—I’m taking a shot in the dark here—there is no Office of Mid-level Human Misery in Norwalk.

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 3:37 pm

@14.5 minutes
Question 1 asks to clarify the Smith Street sale
Question 3 glad you can comprehend
Question 4 I will actually give you credit and go on record saying thats not actually a question. More of a fact. 15 seconds of fame credited {…}
*Side note. As “crotchety and mid level human misery” as you claim I am I have never been edited by Nancy or her staff. 15 seconds of fame credit revoked. Your running on fumes.
edited to remove an insult, a violation of the comments policy. https://www.nancyonnorwalk.com/comment-guidelines/

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 22, 2018 at 4:12 pm

This comment has been disallowed for harassing the writer, a violation of the comments policy.

Bob Welsh April 22, 2018 at 5:14 pm

All commenters: Your thoughts on civic matters are welcomed and appreciated.

Please address policy and not people, and refrain from denigrating eachother.

Thank you.

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 6:23 pm

Nothing I dislike more than question dodging. Simple questions that you seem to have the answers to. Then why not share them? Why does the petition stat information that differs from developer and city information? I cant find that on Google nor your business on Wall St.
Im sorry you consider persistence as being a troll.
@Bob I respect your request but ask others on this site due the same. I was just following suit. I have seen some horrible things said about people on this site. That being said I hope my questions to Jackie aren’t being considered policy viloation.

Sid Welker April 22, 2018 at 6:43 pm

Im sorry you consider persistence as being a troll.
@Bob I respect your request but ask others on this site due the same. I was just following suit. I have seen some horrible things said about people on this site. That being said I hope my questions to Jackie aren’t being considered policy viloation.

Donna Smirniotopoulos April 23, 2018 at 1:46 pm

@Johnny G, while I have not seen it written in the comments policy that marriage proposals are strictly forbidden, all the same, I SHALL NOT WED YOU. All the same, I am flattered by your continued attentions.

Nancy Chapman April 23, 2018 at 5:00 pm

I took yesterday off, some comments policy violations got through. They are now edited out. Hopefully, most NancyOnNorwalk readers enjoyed yesterday’s nice weather.

Debora Goldstein April 30, 2018 at 7:59 pm

Residents should be aware that nursing homes are a permitted special permit use in AA residence zones and down. Not every residential neighborhood is AAA. I don’t know whether the one everyone is talking about is in AAA or not, but likely its not.

http://www.norwalkct.org/DocumentCenter/View/349/ARTICLE-30

This is why its so important for everyone to bird-dog the POCD process RIGHT NOW. And doubly important that we insist that the City follow through on CONFORMING THE ZONING CODE with the POCD. You never know what is eligible to pop up in your neighborhood until it does. Then you, too, can have the joy of being accused of being a naysayer while the developers have their way with your city.

The POCD steering committee is meeting on May 2nd
5:30 PM - 7:30 PM at the South Norwalk Library Branch 10 Washington St.
Public comment is on the agenda:
http://www.norwalkct.org/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/13265

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