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Opinion: If you believe Dr. Ford…

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If you believe Dr. Ford, here’s what you must also believe:

Four 17-year-old boys and two 15-year-old girls were partying in someone else’s house.

So either they broke in to the house, found an open house and let themselves in or had permission from an unmentioned friend.   (All highly unlikely.)

After she escaped the alleged rape attempt — she left her 15-year-old friend behind while she found her way home alone. She didn’t call the police, didn’t tell her parents, didn’t notify her friend’s parents, got undressed, brushed her teeth, put on her pajamas, went to bed… and left her friend to fend for herself. (Do you really believe Dr Ford is that callous and uncaring?)

After the alleged horrible experience — she continued her high school life with no noticeable changes in attitude, academic performance or socializing — never warning anyone of the potential threat of being with a drunk Brett Kavanaugh or Mark Judge.  (In other words — she acted like nothing ever happened.)

Democrats don’t believe it either… but they want her to believe it and they expect you to believe it.

Democrat politics — ignoring substance, changing the subject, throwing mud.

Martin Tagliaferro

22 comments

Piberman September 30, 2018 at 8:57 am

Those familiar with how the FBI conducts top security investigations or have been the subject of such investigations well know that the FBI would have made exhaustive investigation with Kavanaugh’s associates including school mates and friends. Not because he was a Judicial nominee. But because he held the nation’s highest civilian security clearance as Pres. Geo. Bush’s private secretary with access to the nuclear weapon codes. The odds are very very high Kavanaugh was clean as a whistle.

So what to make of a charge of misconduct made 35 years after the fact that fails to meet the standards of a defined actions, e.g. time, place, witnesses, due reporting, etc. That’s a new wrinkle. That the Democrats under Sen. Feinstein have chosen use such a charge in the way they have chosen to use it is truly deplorable. Had they been professional and notified the FBI as soon as they learned of such charge we’d be in a different scenario.

We’ll never likely know with confidence the full validity of Prof. Ford’s charge. At least not to conventional legal standards. But we have a much better understanding of the Democratic Party playbook. We need only compare Sen. Feinstein with the late Sen. John McCain to understand the differences between a true American Patriot and a crass politician. Democrats ought to be embarrassed.

steve September 30, 2018 at 9:56 am

Martin, ask a few woman what % of women they think have been assaulted. Based on what I’ve heard, it’s probably between 75-100%. Women are resilient. My guess is you think it was the evil Hilary that did it to her and for the past 35 years has been planning to use it against Kavanaugh.

Peter Torrano September 30, 2018 at 11:01 am

Martin

Are you unaware that you are not allowed to question the veracity of the claims of Dr. Ford. You cannot ask questions, state facts or think logically. Dr. Ford said it occurred, as did the woman who accused the Duke Lacrosse team, causing a coach to be wrongfully fired, a bunch of late teen and early twenties boys to be labeled sexual predators before being cleared of those horrific charges after the accuser admitted lying. Since Dr. Ford said it happened, even devoid of any proof, you MUST believe her. Get on the bandwagon. Clap your cymbals and declare Kavanaugh guilty. Rule of law be damned.

Lee F. September 30, 2018 at 11:20 am

Pretty shocked that this kind of garbage was published as a column. I did not donate to NoN to be subject to this kind of ignorant ranting. I expect stuff like this in comments, not as a piece pushed in a newsletter.

John Levin September 30, 2018 at 4:28 pm

Lee F. – I feel your pain, but I think all NoN readers need to show some patience and respect for people that do not share their views. That can be difficult – our nation is deeply polarized. Best to argue facts and leave it at that. I find that Mr Tagliaferro’s letter makes many claims of fact that are not facts at all but are opinions. It appears that Mr Tagliaferro might be confused by the difference, or is keenly aware and has sought to present opinion as fact.

MarjorieM September 30, 2018 at 6:15 pm

I am truly disgusted by many posts by men regarding assault on women. I would hope more women would reply here. Women who have been sexually assaulted know exactly what Dr. Ford’s reaction was all about.

Kathleen September 30, 2018 at 7:55 pm

Mr. Tagliaferro and others should deeply inform themselves on the effects of sexual assault on victims before opining on the issue. And, John, it’s less about patience and lack of respect for other points of view. Rather it’s about educating oneself about an issue in order to make an informed opinion. You squarely made that point. That is the job of any responsible person who intends to write on any issue. Mr. Tagliaferro and Piberman, please do your research and give it another go.

Mitch Adis September 30, 2018 at 7:55 pm

@Peter. Don’t forget Tawana Brawley or Nikki Yovino.

Dr. Ford may have been assaulted, but it it may not have been Hon. Kavanaugh who did it.

The other story here is – who leaked the letter even though Dr. Ford asked to remain anonymous. That will surely silence anyone considering coming forward in the future. The Democrats are hell bent on winning that they will ruin anyone in their path including Dr. Ford.

The thought of being led by this Democratic Party makes me sad. I am switching Democrat to Independent.

Marie September 30, 2018 at 8:28 pm

This man is regurgitating Fox talking points and pretending his opinions are facts. Some men are scared of the fact that the remainder of the male entitlement they’ve enjoyed for thousands of years is slipping away. My advice to people like Martin and Piberman and Peter: when you’re scared in this strange new world, just smile more. You’re prettier when you smile.

Eleanor Lx. September 30, 2018 at 8:46 pm

I believe without uncorroborated testimony as witness this past week, we must presume Judge Kavanuagh innocent. It was shameful witnessing the lynch mob in motion last week.

Rick September 30, 2018 at 10:15 pm

GoFundMe accounts which have raised over $700,000 for Dr Ford , anything left over should go to those who need help like all those who were caught up in the church scandal. Now is not the time to forget those forgotten are we not talking all victims and not just the ones who partied as kids? Became victims?

Tom Wolfe and Albert Hofmann had plenty to write about doesn’t mean any of this is ok.

Its hard to fathom what went on back then if you weren’t there , in Boston at MIT they use to make blotter acid window pane Lysergic acid diethylamide in class and get graded on it,

Im not saying anything would be right but the past was more than a few bad choices there was a lot.

Cocaine was also a high grade sex tool made popular in those days lets not forget the past while some are simply making this a show.

What did some of us expect , things like this come up victims come out of the woodwork just like the church its no surprise people were scarred but are we to burn Tom Wolfe and Albert Hofmann books snd ignore the culture back then?

I think talking about the scene back then and the mistakes some made should be part of the healing process thats what we want healing and not mud slinging? Money? or a book deal?

Martin touched upon it a book could be written on some of the victims and those speaking out , i bet those books would resemble some of Toms and Alberts writings.

Before any one knee jerks on my comments what were you doing back them and what were you hiding, from another generation oh well go read some books they were never in most school libraries.

One must realize the kids of today have labs in their bedrooms with butane burners, guess in 30 years we will here whats going on today.

Whats this have to do with now ? Its changed the subject of today’s tragedies as they unfold.

Only way to stop a generation of bad choices is to focus on the here and now. Its obvious we have politicians who have amnesia .

Elsa Peterson Obuchowski September 30, 2018 at 11:48 pm

I stopped reading at “So either they broke in to the house, found an open house and let themselves in or had permission from an unmentioned friend. (All highly unlikely.)”
I don’t know where the writer went to high school, but from what I remember of my teenage years, finding out whose parents were going to be absent on a given night was Criterion #1 in deciding where the popular kids were going to party.

Kathy Gallagher October 1, 2018 at 7:03 am

Surprised and disappointed to see this published here as a column. And as the commenter above stated, they are mostly Fox talking points.

Dr. Ford’s behavior makes perfect sense to victims of sexual assault. No more needs to be said about that,

Perhaps if witnesses were called, two polygraphs were administered, a legitimate unfettered FBI investigation were conducted, Rachael Mitchell was allowed to question Kavanaugh OR last but certainly not least, he actually answered questions during the sham hearing, we would be closer to certainty. The constraints our ‘administration’ is putting on this current sham will certainly limit the outcome.

Whatever happens, the nominee has certainly shown by his performance last week, raging, evading, belittling and lying, the type of person he is. How dare he be denied the job he was ‘born for?’

Martin Tagliaferro October 1, 2018 at 7:31 am

Thank you all for the responses but I have not seen anything I wrote actually refuted with a fact or logic . I did go to friends houses when their parents were out but never with girls 2 years younger than us and I always knew where the house was located. I do not doubt Dr Ford had a terrible experience sometime or somewhere, but logic tells me this wasn’t it. Everyone she named has a sworn affidavit it didn’t happen. Everyone is wrong except her?

TQ October 1, 2018 at 8:51 am

@Pete

How many times during your long career in law enforcement did you see a man accused of sexual assault by three different women, only to learn that all three were “confused” or lying?

@Martin

You wrote that “Everyone she named has a sworn affidavit it didn’t happen.” This is false. Multiple people named by Dr. Ford have sworn that they don’t remember the incident. Big difference.

Steve Mann October 1, 2018 at 9:21 am

To all of you who are so quick to decry Martin’s article, it was NOT about the effects of assault on women. It WAS about this unsubstantiated claim by a woman who is inexorably connected to the left, by virtue of deep family ties, and your inexplicable need to rush to judgement without proof simply because it has been suggested that a woman was harmed. The presumption of guilt here is deplorable. Seemingly intelligent people have thrown all objectivity out the door. The double standard is blaring. Did you see the elevator attack in Flake? If a man had spoken that way to a women, he’d have been arrested.

marija bryant October 1, 2018 at 10:23 am

Any woman who has experienced sexual assault finds every word of the account believable. Kavanaugh’s defense was also familiar to women. Men resort to yelling, anger and over-talking to silence women in all sorts of contexts. It may work this time for the Republicans but it won’t work for much longer. Once women got the power to control their own lives, lobby for equality in the work world, gain reproductive control over their own bodies, and speak out about sexual bullying and assault, they won’t go back.

Kathleen October 1, 2018 at 1:48 pm

Martin, check the affidavits again. And, your “logic” is skewed. Dr. Ford stated that Mark Judge was in the room when the assault occurred. What did happen is that the committee chose not to ask Judge to testify. From this, you inferred that she must not be telling the truth. Instead, it might be more logical to state that Judge should be made to testify.

Martin Tagliaferro October 1, 2018 at 8:54 pm

Kathleen – The committee chose not to ask Judge to testify because he said he had no memory of the event, had nothing to add and signed a sworn affidavit that he doesn’t recall this incident. I don’t know if she “is telling the truth” or not .. I can’t get inside her mind… I just think her memory is flawed.

To anyone on this post… can anyone provide one provable fact in this case? And, in your opinion, does that matter?

alan October 2, 2018 at 9:31 am

Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and Louis CK and Woody Allen and Al Franken, Pat Meehan,Trent Franks,Blake Farenthold,John Conyers…the list is endless.
They were all considered innocent by their fans.
Your post,Martin, does not really belong in this forum. Go set up a FB fan page and post your facts.

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