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Counter protest to Norwalk rally prompts heavy police presence

Daniel Oboy waves a flag Thursday on East Avenue, as a Norwalk Police officer watches and demonstrators assemble nearby to express support for the Russia investigation headed by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Correction, Nov. 11: “Pastor Paul” quote changed. Updated, 7:48 a.m.: Video added; 7:09 a.m.: Copy edits

NORWALK, Conn. – A peaceful East Avenue protest turned rowdy Thursday when a few counter protestors appeared across the street and answered chants of “nobody is above the law” with shouts of “Bill Clinton is a rapist!”

In short order, Norwalk Police swarmed the area and traffic snarled as one lane of East Avenue filled with police cruisers. Police kept the two groups away from each other and there was laughter among all the shouting.

Leading the counter protestors was “Pastor Paul,” who was joined by two or three men who said they had never met before; a man who identified himself as Daniel Oboy waved a large American flag while Paul yelled phrases such as “Hillary is not your president,” “down with the deep state,” and, “the Illuminati does not run America.”

A pro-Russia investigation rally starts Thursday on the Norwalk town green.

About 300 people met on the Town Green at 5 p.m. to protest Wednesday’s resignation of Attorney General Jeffrey Session, in a rally called “A Mueller Firing Rapid Response event” in a Norwalk Democratic Town Committee email.  The e-mail described the event as “part of MoveOn’s nationwide movement planning to hit the streets (Thursday) at 5pm to demand that the Trump-Russia investigation be allowed to proceed to its conclusion.”

Sessions resigned the day after the election, and said that President Donald Trump had requested the resignation. Matthew Whitaker, who has criticized the investigation led by Robert Mueller, is taking over as acting Attorney General.

The rally began with Mayor Harry Rilling addressing the crowd, thanking them for gathering and saying that America has always been great. Chants of “This is what democracy looks like” followed, with the leader asking “Conclusion?” and getting a reply of “Collusion.” “Nobody is above the law” the crowd chanted.

A few people stood on East Avenue, holding signs.

“It scares me what he’s doing with the Justice Department,” said John Norton of Manchester, whose sign said, “Trump is not above the law.”
Norton and his wife babysit their grandchildren in Wilton.

Protesters line an East Avenue sidewalk Thursday.

“What’s going on right now, at the top of the heap, is not good for democracy. It’s becoming more of a dictatorship than a democracy. So, very upsetting,” Ann Norton said.

The crowd on the Green moved to East Avenue, lining the sidewalk with signs and drawing honks from some drivers.

“Trump is out of control and we need to do something about it,” a Norwalker who identified herself only as “Mary” said. “He is going to try to shut Mueller down and it is so important that that doesn’t happen.”

Pro-Russian investigation protestors cross East Avenue in response to comments by Danieal Oboy, right, and the Rev. Paul Juchniewich.

Oboy and “Pastor Paul,” the Rev. Paul Juchniewich, made their presence known about 18 minutes into the rally, yelling from the other side of East Avenue. Reporters and a Norwalk Police officer crossed the street, and were followed by about 50 protestors, who stood just down East Avenue from the Trump loyalists, as Paul yelled, “Bill Clinton is a racist!”

“I want to make sure we keep the street open,” the police officer said to Juchniewich, agreeing with him that his First Amendment rights are important.

A Norwalk Police SUV arrived, and stopped in the northbound passing lane. Soon another cruiser arrived, then another, and the lane was filled with cruisers.

“Hillary Clinton colluded with Russians,” Juchniewich yelled. “Hillary is not your president… Hillary is not about the law. Lock her up. Lock her up. Lock her up.”

Asked by NancyOnNorwalk why Clinton was the issue, Juchniewich said, “She stole money from the Haitians. The Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise, PizzaGate is real. Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane like 20 times and had sex with little girls.”

Asked again, he said, “He’s the issue because no one is above the law.”

Juchniewich sued Norwalk in 2010, claiming false arrest and alleging a civil conspiracy to deny him the use of 25 Van Zant St., where he operated Cavalry Chapel. The suit was settled in 2012.

A short while later, a Norwalk Police officer told a protester that the group had been told they couldn’t meet on the Green, that they needed a permit.

Dana DeVille of Black Rock, Bridgeport, explained to NancyOnNorwalk that she’s been working with campaigns, such as the one for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes, and is involved with politically active groups.

“I think that we have to come out and support and protect our country. Nobody is going to do it except us,” she said.

Norwalk Police man East Avenue on Thursday.

“Robert Mueller is not above the law!” the men yelled, later cracking, “Kavanaugh pushed Ginsberg down.”
“Look at all the traffic you guys caused,” one of the men yelled. “You — losers.”

Then, to a woman who had offered an opinion, one said, “Who’s the president, you stupid bitch?”

“Donald Trump has got to go,” the protestors said.

“You’re delusional,” Juchniewich replied.

Later, Tina Duryea, who said she did not help organize the rally, explained to NancyOnNorwalk her reasons for being there.

“We are concerned with the President asking for Sessions to resign because…he asked him to resign in order to speed up the process to find a way to undercut Mueller’s investigation,” she said. “Whether he is going to fire Mueller, or stop funding Mueller, or do other things to undermine him, that was his end goal. We think it is very important that the Mueller investigation continues and that all stones are overturned and we know exactly what is going on with the President, with his family, with all the people in his inner circle, with Russia and with other people he’s been (associated with).”

No one knows what Trump has been doing because he won’t share his tax returns, she said.

“There’s a lot of stuff that he’s doing that’s very shady and we want Mueller to get to the bottom of the investigation,” Duryea said. “We believe that he’s taking steps to undercut the Mueller investigation. This protest is to say he can’t do that. This is a nation of laws, still and he is subject to the same laws as all of us.”

Juchniewich, Oboy and the other men just want attention, she said.

“I think that they are probably very insecure and very pathetic human beings,” she said. “Nobody should be paying attention to them, frankly. I think that this is all a bunch of sound and fury signifying nothing. They just came here for attention because they are very pathetic human beings.”

“They are violent, we are having a peaceful protest and they are trying to stir the pot,” a woman said.

Norwalk Police Lt. Terry Blake estimated that there were about 30 officers onscene.

“We do have an abundance of officers and detectives here to make sure that the safety of everyone protesting is maintained,” he said.

Deputy Chief Jim Walsh declined to explain what prompted the police presence.

The protest peacefully disbanded at 6 p.m., the advertised time for it to end.

All Norwalk Police officers who were present were ordered to download the video from the body cameras, according to Harold Cobin, a NancyOnNorwalk contributor who monitors a police scanner.

Rilling said this was protection in case someone filed a complaint.

Police cruisers on Park Street.

The Green is owned by the First Taxing District, and he found out about the rally at about 4 p.m. when he was asked to stop by, he said.

“They are saying that nobody is above the law,” Rilling said. “I agree we need to know the truth. If somebody has nothing to hide, then why would they interfere with the investigation? I hope that they don’t. I hope that they let the investigation go through because the American public deserves to know if there was Russian interference or if there was some sort of collusion with the Russian government, and who was involved and what they did.”

Rilling said he had been told by Norwalk Police Chief Thomas Kulhawik that an officer went across East Avenue to become a barrier between Juchniewich and the protestors, and when his car was surrounded he became concerned and called for assistance.

“I think, in the final analysis everything went as well as could be expected,” Rilling said. “We had one peaceful group. we had another group on the other side who were relatively peaceful, although if you listen to the police chief and the officers, they were a little bit belligerent. But nothing serious happened. So it was over and people have the right to peaceful assembly.”

 

56 comments

niz November 9, 2018 at 5:51 am

norwalkers should be protestung local injustices… but to stay on topic, sessions was no prize, its scary who the repacenent is, better to proest that?

Lisa Brinton Thomson November 9, 2018 at 6:09 am

It would appear our mayor is engaging in the same diversionary tactics as the President, with this staged circus. How many police cruisers because of a few counter protesters? Really??? What did that cost us?

Don’t get me wrong, the Mueller investigation should continue, but Norwalkers should be concerned about investigations needed here at home:

1. We have no information regarding the lawsuit filed by the city to coverup a screwup on POKO.

2. Little old ladies still live in squalor and asbestos in Washington Village, while the redevelopment averages $500-$600k per unit to build, versus the $400k value of a Norwalk home.

3. City Hall’s reorganization with more layers of management will cost another million from a mayor, who continues to empire build and dole out bonuses without performance indicators.

4. Property Tax credits worth $15m are offered up via the Innovation District, when state and federal tax credits already cover the same area.

5. The 2019-2020 school budget looms large, as the BOE tries (since last spring) to talk to the mayor about overcrowded schools and rising costs, due in large part to failed land use policies and lack of ordinance enforcement.

6. A $1B boondoggle Walk Bridge project is forced on Norwalk with seemingly no defense from the city and even less compensation.

7. Retail mall jobs are heralded as ‘job growth’, while sales tax dollars go to bankrupt Hartford instead of infrastructure for our clogged streets.

I could go on… but seriously folks, how much longer is Norwalk going to give this mayor a pass on poor management because we have an unpleasant situation in Washington?

If he wants to focus on Trump, then run for federal office, but Norwalk needs a leader who can focus on issues a little closer to home!

Sue Haynie November 9, 2018 at 6:22 am

Why did Westport, Wilton, surrounding towns come to Norwalk’s town Green? Why not use their own Greens, they all have one. Why not use their own police departments, they have those too? Will Westport, Wilton, etc. kick in for clean up and police overtime?

Westport et al have low taxes, well-funded schools. Norwalk has high taxes, can’t afford our schools. Westport, et al have little to no diversity and try hard to keep it that way. Our surrounding towns use Norwalk like their personal ‘colony’.

Maybe Norwalkers should protest the Westport, Wilton, Weston Post Office Annex on Westport Avenue! It’s untaxed on prime Norwalk real estate–only for use by those towns. Westport sold its own PO downtown, and all the parking that came with it, for commercial space. Since they don’t need an annex anymore, their PO is now in a small space in strip center. All their PO trucks, incl. UPS, leave & return from Norwalk. They park their cars there. They need to leave.

Bryan Meek November 9, 2018 at 6:40 am

@Sue. “Hate has no Home” in Westport, so they had to bring it here.

This was nothing but a campaign kickoff at taxpayer expense.

Lights, camera, action.

M Murray November 9, 2018 at 7:02 am

Wouldn’t protesting time be better spent protesting against tolls and increased taxes?? The counterprotest video was pretty entertaining. It was quite amusing how upset they were able to get the protestors. The investigation has only been going on for two years. Give him another 2-6 years and he might be able to finish.

Mike Mushak November 9, 2018 at 7:12 am

It was a great moment of patriotism and civic duty to be standing with hundreds on the historic Norwalk Green, protesting along with thousands across the country against a wannabe fascist president who is pretending he is above the law by obstructing justice while spreading hateful racist rhetoric to try to divide our nation.

For nearly 400 years, New England greens (CT has 170 that survive including Norwalk’s) have always been public spaces where residents gathered to conduct trade, hear the news, gather in protest, celebrate holidays and victories, and even bury their dead.

The New Haven green, for example, which hosted Occupy New Haven a few years ago and has been the site of protests and concerts for centuries, has about 10,000 bodies buried under it.

The New England greens were also in many ways birthplaces of democracy, where patriots gathered over two centuries ago in the 1770’s to train to fight the forces of tyranny and corruption. This event was in that true historic American spirit, and I was happy to be a part of it.

Al Bore November 9, 2018 at 8:23 am

It is so sad to be a democrat, do something good with your time instead of causing more divide in the already divided country. The time you spend causing more divide spend it on doing volunteer work to help others.

Sarah Waters November 9, 2018 at 8:36 am

I don’t always say this, but thank you Mike Mushak! I agree and totally appreciate your staying focused on the topic… Wish I could have been there! My son was performing in All-City orchestra just inside City Hall at the same time!

Appreciation to those who were there in the spirit of democracy and peaceful protest. (No thanks from me to all the conspiracy theories).

Sue Haynie November 9, 2018 at 8:56 am

Norwalk should have counter-protest tax revolts. I’m real tired of the hypocrisy of our neighboring towns. Westport et all tout ‘Hate has no place here’,and forgets to add– nor affordable housing, diverse schools, big box stores, anything they view as unseemly…because Norwalk taxpayers can handle that. Let us eat cake, they say!

Ken November 9, 2018 at 9:00 am

Is is so sad to be a Republican. It was great to see hundreds of good people protesting the worst president of modern times. I laugh when the {…} Republicans say that we should be protesting things at home. Maybe they don’t understand that CT is part of the United States of America.

All one needs to see is the hundreds against Trump and his thinking that he is above the law and just 3 that were pro Trump.

Here are a few links about 1 of the 3 pro Trump guys.

Norwalk’s ‘Pastor Paul’ Arrested Again

https://norwalk.dailyvoice.com/news/norwalks-pastor-paul-arrested-again/420356/

Norwalk law department given authorization to settle civil rights suit with ‘Pastor Paul’ for $20K

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehour.com/norwalk/amp/Norwalk-law-department-given-authorization-to-8194068.php

Church leader claims police persecution

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehour.com/norwalk/amp/Church-leader-claims-police-persecution-8263587.php

Edited to remove an insult, a violation of the comment policy. https://www.nancyonnorwalk.com/comment-guidelines/

Alan November 9, 2018 at 9:02 am

“Why did Westport, Wilton, surrounding towns come to Norwalk’s town Green?”

For the same reason that they forced hospice into a quiet residential area on Den Road in Stamford. For the same reason Gary Ferone’s Assisted living is allowed in Stamford (and possibly Norwalk). For the same reason you can’t use their beaches. The list is long.
Politicians in Wilton, New Canaan,Greenwich,Darien,Westport cost too much.

Mike Lyons November 9, 2018 at 9:10 am

The First Taxing District owns the green and has the right to establish “time and place” requirements for use of it. They require a permit and certificate of insurance for any large group that wants to use the park. Such requirements have been routinely upheld by the courts. So these demonstrators (many from out of town), who didn’t request a permit or provide the required insurance, were illegally trespassing on the District’s land. They held up signs saying ‘no one is above the law’, while they themselves were violating the law.

Claire Schoen November 9, 2018 at 9:31 am

Isn’t this exactly what a democracy is all about? Freedom of speech, with coverage by a free and independent press? God Bless America.

Rick November 9, 2018 at 10:47 am

Im not surprised but I stop short of saying the wrong thing.

Rilling said he had been told by Norwalk Police Chief Thomas Kulhawik that lets Harry of the hook.

Im sure nothing happened but if one was to read into a police report you may find a suspected firearm was a cause for the heavy police response . We a dozen or so of us listened to the police cruiser radio telling all officers to make sure all body cams were downloaded as if they are not all nightly.

They also broadcasted no 87s were found on the police car radio whats that mean?

Not bad Mike ems calls and a robbery in the city that usually need an officer about the same time as this great event went down could of taken away critical response to our taxpayers.

The log has a MVA at the green as well

Im surprised usually I comment on the news or lack of it on events like this but this I hope wasn’t a red herring.

The second and third taxing districts of Norwalk had a big news item wonder who serves on the boards and will they have anything to say?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/five-individuals-connected-connecticut-energy-cooperative-charged-misusing-funds

I guess any rate increase would be expected at this point.

Now Norwalk can get back to screwing those on Wall st as Rilling works the crowd.

V November 9, 2018 at 11:51 am

I got about 1:30 into each video – unwatchable shouting. You should’ve tried to get a video of some of these morons tussling or wrestling in the streets. I would’ve definitely watched that

Azra November 9, 2018 at 11:59 am

I see a lot of comments from people who weren’t eyewitnesses, so I’ll offer what I know. I was there and met lots of Norwalk neighbors, so it didn’t seem to be packed with people from other towns.

I don’t think anyone could have predicted how many people would actually show up to a last minute protest on a chilly dark evening, otherwise I am positive a permit would have been obtained. For big planned events they always are. (Personally, I went because I thought it would be a smattering of people and figured I’d stop by.)

One thing I am sure we agree on is that peaceful protest is sacrosanct. The fact is that the multitudes of protests have all been peaceful- until and unless belligerent and potentially (or actually) violent counter-protesters arrive.

With the frequency of mass shootings and attacks in our country being what they are, and the fact that they are frequently perpetrated by right-wing zealots, I was grateful for the police protection. I know they were uneasy as well. I wish they were there without need. When asked, out of respect and appreciation for them we quickly and quietly dispersed. Thank you, Norwalk PD.

JOHN C ROMANO November 9, 2018 at 12:23 pm

Comment disallowed for ascribing motives without proof and insulting the writer.

To the best of our knowledge, this is a factual report. If anyone has information that there is an inaccuracy in this report, kindly provide it and we will make a correction.

JOHN C ROMANO November 9, 2018 at 12:28 pm

What I do not get is, TRUMP could have pressured the second in command to do his bidding if he so desired and did not. The jury is still out on the findings. Whatever is going to come out is already in the can. So why make something out to be what it is not. TRUMP more than anyone wants this case or inquiry to end.The American public needs this to be over as well. It is an un needed distraction. All the wining in the world will not change the findings (for both sides) it is what it is, facts are facts and we do not have anything to see.

Ron Morris November 9, 2018 at 1:26 pm

For all the right wingers posting FAKE news that the protesters were there illegally you are wrong. If you read this article it is clear the nothing was being done illegally.

From the Hour

The location of the protest was nearly changed early Thursday after the First Taxing District, which owns the Green, said a permit was required and objected to the demonstration.

Norwalk police officials said it had been in touch with the organizers, members of the advocacy groups MoveOn and TrumpIsNotAboveTheLaw, and that they were looking for a second location.

https://www.thehour.com/news/article/Hundreds-rally-in-Norwalk-to-defend-Mueller-probe-13376328.php

Its time to impeach DUMP

Norwalk Lost November 9, 2018 at 1:35 pm

When will these leftists finally come out of the closet and articulate their desire for a Marxist/Socialist hijacking of our republic? They are far more dangerous than the charade they are conjuring about our dully elected president. Don’t be fooled!

Bob Partisan November 9, 2018 at 1:36 pm

The division we are seeing in this country is the direct result of Russia medley in our elections.
Moscow is having a ball watching their plan snowball into dissent in the streets.

Trump clearly wanted Sessions to stop the Mueller probe and now by getting rid of him he’ll try to obstruct the investigation through the half-ass pick of Whitaker. If there really was nothing to hide he would not be putting this much effort into the issue.

For the record I am a registered Republican that does not agree with Trumps Anti-American rhetoric.
Yes, Hillary is a crook but what does that have to do with Trump?

If he truly has nothing to hide there is no reason for him to obstruct or even further comment on the investigation.

Bob Welsh November 9, 2018 at 1:58 pm

All commenters:

If you are here to persuade someone of your point of view, you will have more success doing so if you make your argument in a calm and respectful manner, and eschew namecalling.

Going forward I will remove instances of namecalling, which includes misspellings that turn proper names into vulgarities or insults. You’re all better than this, I’m sure of it.

Patrick Cooper November 9, 2018 at 2:21 pm

@Bob Welsh – I confess, I’m snickering. I can even read the pleading tone in your missive. Norwalk needs more bridges – otherwise the trolls will suffer a housing shortage. I’m sure many people (the mayor) think of me as one too.

Please – watch South Park season 19 episode 5 – called “Safe Space”.

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s19e05-safe-space

You are the “Butter’s” of NoN. We may need to start a go-fund-me page to support your mental health costs. Don’t worry, in the end you get to execute “Reality”.

Bryan Meek November 9, 2018 at 2:22 pm

Contrary to the beliefs of some who think the Hour is gospel, last nights protesters were trespessing without permission and necessary insurance that FDWD requires for assemblies.

Facts are it jammed up traffic when honest hard working Norwalkers are just trying to get home and for what? These same tantrum throwers were against the appointment of Sessions in the first place and now they are having a tantrum that he is being fired, when it is a position that serves at the will of the President, whatever your opinion is of him.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

That our Mayor took the opportunity to showcase himself in the event takes the cake.

Rick November 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm

@ John

This was article was on the money, without a police report we have no idea why a car with NH was a concern , and whether or not a gun was an object of concern. What we heard on the police car radio cant be reported on unless the reporter hears it themselves.

Nancy did ask someone where they were from he said Norwalk.So who from NH was here? Move on runs a great operation anything on Norwalk and what to expect has been taken down , they needed an event so they used the platform to draw a crowd. Their making money so a permit may of not cover the additional officers brought in but would of helped the city. No one speaks cost how about the Mayor does he have any idea what it cost the city?

https://front.moveon.org/

As far as a robbery and medical calls the police log shows that.

This was a distraction a money maker for Move on and the Norwalk officers who normally dont work Thurs nights.

Maybe it was a good drill for the police dept mall is coming soon and things happen all the time at malls like this.

Thank you Bob for your work as well , Nancy wrote what she saw , took video and wrote a great article.

Hate to ask the crowd but can we focus on the homeless , and those left in Washington village and not Washington DC. and Eversource?

This Eversource deal must of gone thru they are going thru vets park under the docks according to a Cianbro rep , they were driving a test piling on the water st side . Seems the land was once a hazardous waste site with still a collection manifold still in the ground.Has it been cleaned up Norwalks track record suggests not.

Has to be vetted but the land is now a contractors yard and before eversource continues with their underground line Cianbro wants to get their work done in the area. The rep said its going to the right of the piling. He knew the details. He is working on the bridge.

The police station on the other end of this line before the RR tracks are going thru a restricted lot the police station was to still have hazardous waste and had a restriction on it from excavation. Like Oyster shell park a permit from the State is needed to dig in a deed restricted parcel where hazardous waste remains.

Why the eversouce meeting its not for input the deal is done by listening to the rep from Cianbro.He knew where the line was going.

So is there anybody left who cares enough about the city to take some interest in it?

Its getting cold , homeless overdoses and city problems have not gone away only the elections have.

Elections are to solve problems not create them .

Michael Foley November 9, 2018 at 3:26 pm

I do believe that peaceful assemblies should be allowed and encouraged providing the proper permits or permission has been applied for or given to the organization and or group ! If people dont like the President / Mayor/ Senator/ or even me that is their choice ! We as educated people need stop this division and work together to make things better ! Right now We are Not ! We have big problems in Our own state, lets work together and try to fix theses issues ! Grow Up your all setting terrible example for the children !

M Murray November 9, 2018 at 3:55 pm

I would think CT residents would be more concerned about protesting against tolls in CT than the head of a billion dollar agency that can’t conclude one single investigation in a span of 2 years.

Ken November 9, 2018 at 4:03 pm

A few facts
The protest did have permission from the first district to use the Green.

The protest was calm until the counter protesters arrived screaming, yelling and blocking traffic. They should have been arrested.

Claire Schoen November 9, 2018 at 4:31 pm

@Patrick- We’ve just launched a fundraiser as part of a national campaign – check out http://newsmatch.org – no need for GoFundMe, just earmark it ‘Bob and Nancy’s mental health fund’ Haha

Seriously, this is an exciting development, as Nancy has been recognized at the national level – we have the potential to raise some big bucks, with everyone’s help…

Rusty Guardrail November 9, 2018 at 4:40 pm

The situation in Washington is unacceptable.

If not for tens of millions of protestors repeatedly clogging the streets in the 1960s, the pointless Vietnam war would have dragged on, yielding far more U.S. deaths than the 50,000+ reported.

To elected officials, most of whom act as though staying in office is Job #1, a mobilized angry citizenry can be formidable persuasion.

Bryan Meek November 9, 2018 at 4:58 pm

Yeah guardrail. 57,000 KIAs are right up there with someone’s at will day job, who was never supported by the very people supporting him right now. Or is Dick Blumenthal saying he did support him at his confirmation vote? Like he served in Vietnam?

The protestors did not have permission to clog our city streets, no matter how many times the people supporting their illegal behavior want us to believe these people have some moral high ground. People persisting on this idea that 4 people caused disruption when 300 people clogged our streets are delusional.

The mayor needs to set a better example and doesn’t get to chose which laws are broken or followed. Surprised he didn’t raise a Hatian flag while he was there.

Victor Cavallo November 9, 2018 at 5:11 pm

Sadly, what we’re witnessing is the commencement of Civil War 2.0. People are going to get hurt. I hope the casualties can be held to a minimum. And I hope that Nancy develops rules against publishing comments that agitate these violent conflicts and glorify them with romantic images of New England greens. But I wouldn’t blame Nancy for reporting casualties and near-casualties involving Norwalk citizens, as was possible last night.

Ken November 9, 2018 at 5:41 pm

Once again Bryan the protesters did have permission from the first district to protest on the green . They actually didn’t need permission as it’s a town green. but they had the courtesy of getting it.
Also all was peaceful until the counter protesters went towards a police Suv in what was described as a threatening manner which caused minor traffic back up.

Mr. Liberty November 9, 2018 at 5:51 pm

I saw the front page of the Norwalk Hour while shopping in a store. I was disgusted at the fact that Norwalk residents were protesting the ending of the Mueller investigation. What a bunch of {…}. I guess they don’t realize that an investigation that would have yielded incriminating facts within the first 3 months and did not has gone on for over a year and a half. It should have been ended over a year ago. It is costing a lot of taxpayer dollars and is only an extension of those people who are steeped in “group think”. They despise the free market, profit motivation, individual responsibility and individual liberty. But those who are loyal to the left wing party cannot and will not accept logic and reason. They will be screaming in protest to the bitter end. A Roman emperor was asked how the multitudes could be kept calm and under control. He said to just keep giving them “bread and circuses”. This past Tuesday’s election was a clear example of what Connecticut people (and the voters of many other states) voted for… “bread and circuses”.

Edited to remove an insult, a violation of the comment policy. https://www.nancyonnorwalk.com/comment-guidelines/

Ron Morris November 9, 2018 at 7:21 pm

Michael
Correct its the city of Norwalk

Originally incorporated in 1836, the Borough of Norwalk became the First Taxing District in 1913 when the City of Norwalk was created by the consolidation of several towns and boroughs.

The central section of Norwalk is an urbanized area in roughly the geographic center of the city, north of South Norwalk and the Connecticut Turnpike. This portion of Norwalk was the Borough of Norwalk from 1836 until incorporation as the first City of Norwalk in 1893. In 1913 the separate cities of Norwalk, South Norwalk, as well as the unincorporated portions of the Town of Norwalk consolidated to form the City of Norwalk that exists to this day.

Now do you understand that Norwalk owns the town green?

Rusty Guardrail November 9, 2018 at 8:02 pm

There’s a multitude of issues coming to a head, all stemming from public dissatisfaction with a dishonest unqualified president.

Trump lies continually and promotes violence. He encourages all manner of vile human intolerance by his refusal to censure Nazis, Ku Klux Klan and the other hate groups who support him.

Washington Republicans side with him one and all.

More citizens will take to the streets. America will not tolerate this abuse.

Rick November 9, 2018 at 8:20 pm

hey Ron is this article on the same taxing district that made national news Tuesday?

https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/new-london/cmeec-officials-indicted-on-federal-charges/1584123969

if it is maybe its tine to name whoever runs it, after two years we hear SNEW got screwed and we know who runs them.

Not for nothing this rally is over the new news seems to hit a lot in the pocketbook.

WTNH reports CMEEC reportedly received $9 million dollars in federal funding from the U.S. Department of Energy from 2010 to 2015 and spent more than a $1 million on Kentucky Derby trips from 2013 to 2016.

I guess the taxing districts in Norwalk have a lot of time on their hands, what bothersome politicians from all over the state are stepping up o the plate to defend us, Duff and Perone seem to be missing and they have two utilities to defend for us.

Who owns this CMEEC fiasco. Id hate to point the finger at the wrong districts.

Who cares who owns the green it was Norwalk police paid by Rowaton as well to defend it correct? Someone suggested 40 officers including street teams and undercover units were involved out of 177 or so officers . so far no word on the cost.

Lets say it cost $5 grand some will argue it was worth it whats a permit 10 dollars.Trumps going after someone else today , wonder if we could get a discount on the next one.

I got my move on donation letter today I signed up last night, shame Norwalk cant make money like this, we do all the heavy lifting and get nothing back.

Maybe we can take from housing to pay for some of this American justice.

https://front.moveon.org/#join

Michael Foley November 9, 2018 at 9:52 pm

Ron Morris, technically your correct ! Do you feel better now ? The City of Norwalk does not run any water department or electrical company in the city of Norwalk . Have a nice life !

Bryan Meek November 9, 2018 at 10:13 pm

Pathetic argument from the sympathizers for civil unrest. If it is city property it required a permit. FDWD needs insurance. The keyboard assassins here who protested Sessions hiring and now firing really have no shame. Here’s where we should get a PDF copy of the insurance permit and the email or other contract saying it was proper and authorized.

Michael foley November 9, 2018 at 10:16 pm

Don’t you just love the typical lefty hypocrisy? The First Taxing District owns the green and has the right to establish “time and place” requirements for use of it. They require a permit and certificate of insurance for any large group that wants to use the park. Such requirements have been routinely upheld by the courts. So these demonstrators (many from out of town), who didn’t request a permit or provide the required insurance, were illegally trespassing on the District’s land. They held up signs saying ‘no one is above the law’, while they themselves were violating the law.

Rick November 10, 2018 at 12:39 am

from the Ct Mirror Keaith Famuef

Gov.-elect Ned Lamont launched a series of strategic economic development tours Friday with a visit to Connecticut’s southeastern corner, saying the region exemplifies the state’s potential for growth.

Ned must be thinking Duff who?

Its already started folks mass exodus from Ct the businesses started before the election giving notice how many employees they are laying off.

Gov. Dannel P. Malloy announced $85 million in state incentives in May to help Electric Boat add 1,900 workers and expand its submarine-building shipyard over the better part of the next two decades.

“If a family gets stuck for two hours on (Intertate) 95 on their way to visit Mystic Seaport, they’re not going to come back,” he said. “It’s as simple as that.”

Norwalk is still spinning its wheels , bet Trump is making sure the casino and Norwalks hotel is built in Bridgeport.

Trump has 801 days left in office and all Murphy and Himes can do is whine,and fight him, what about sending some money home ?

Murphy spent 10 million dollars and raised $14,589,142

Himes spent $1,366,938 raised $1,902,884

residents in Washington village are still living with rats and all Democrats can think about is Trump.

Duff only spent $53,738.02

You have to wonder was it worth the money spent when tolls go in.

Joe November 10, 2018 at 11:31 am

Lamont doesn’t need tax and fee increases. He just needs common sense solutions.

1) Cut 5% across the board, all departments.

2). Give CT people Prop 187. Cut illegals off from all state services except emergency. Even Californians voted 59% in favor. I’ll betcha CT would vote for it.

3). End crooked OT pension padding by government employees. Even Sen. Edith Prague admitted it was a taxpayer ripoff.

Rick November 10, 2018 at 3:45 pm

Time for another protest?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump will award the 2018 Presidential Medal of Freedom to Elvis Presley, George Herman “Babe” Ruth, Jr. Republican Senator Orrin Hatch, former Minnesota Supreme Court Justice and the first African-American to serve on that court Alan Page, the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, and former professional football player Roger Staubach.Miriam Adelson, a physician who together with her husband Sheldon Adelson for Jewish causes worldwide, and medical research.

With a list like this I imagine MOVE On could make some more money

https://front.moveon.org/

Mike Lyons November 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm

Ron – as a former attorney for two of Norwalk’s taxing districts who participated in the First Taxing District vs. City of Norwalk case decided in 1981, I can assure you that the City does NOT own the green. The First Taxing District is legally distinct from the City, and owns the green. Also, the District’s Manager is quoted in the article as saying that a permit was NOT issued. What do you know that the District’s own Manager doesn’t?

This was an illegal demonstration trespassing on land not owned by the City. I’m not all that concerned about it; I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of people holding up signs saying ‘no one is above the law’ while they violated the law themselves.

Pastor Paul November 10, 2018 at 9:01 pm

Ken… you fail to share all charges were dropped and or Aquited thru self representation.

Next my live feed proves we just stood on the sidewalk dishing out healthy ridicule through a filthy road cone…

Thanks for the laughs… btw it was “Bill Clinton is a Rapist”

Harry should be reprimanded for attending an illegal protest… and standing with the anti police ANTIFA wana bees.

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