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Foley, opponents argue outside a closing paper mill in Sprague

Tom Foley and Mike D’Aurio argue (Madeline Stocker photo)
Tom Foley and Mike D’Aurio argue (Madeline Stocker photo)
The general election is Nov. 4
The general election is Nov. 4

SPRAGUE, Conn. — Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Foley was met with opposition outside a closing paper mill Tuesday, where his efforts to blame the plant’s failure on Democratic policies turned into 40 minutes of debate.

“The largest tax increase in the history of Connecticut has slowed our economy and increased pressure on businesses,” Foley said, pledging to get rid of extraneous taxes, mandates and energy costs for businesses. “We have anti-business policies being mandated, and ultimately that drives businesses out of the state.”

However, Sprague First Selectman Cathy Osten, who’s also the district’s Democratic state senator, interrupted Foley’s press conference with questions of her own.

See the complete story at CT News Junkie.

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18 responses to “Foley, opponents argue outside a closing paper mill in Sprague”

  1. anon

    Connecticut is losing yet another business and yet more jobs.

    Foley’s painful truth, “You have failed at your effort to keep these jobs here, haven’t you?”

  2. Suzanne

    The questions by the First Selectman here were not partisan ones so much as good business practice queries: Mr. Foley was making some conclusive statements about the closure of this paper plant without having done all of his research. Rather, it seems he developed his talking points based on newspaper accounts and his own prejudicial take on what it means, per the current governor’s incompetent administration in his view. He is trying to “win” while gathering “facts” through a superficial lens. A good businessman, a reputation he seems to be keeping, would know both sides and be able to answer to queries factually. Not so here. He might want his bevy of assistants, employed at much higher rates than these soon to be unemployed workers here, to take a wider view. His out of touch stance in this article is glaring.

  3. piberman

    So far no other state Governor enacted a historic tax hike at the start of the national recovery to “jump start” their state economies. So far no other state remains jobs short by 50,000 below their pre-Recession levels as does CT. So maybe citizens in other states are not anxious to follow our Governor’s fiscal policies. Not so CT residents who seemingly endore the Governor’s unorthodox policies while complaining about high taxes and lost jobs. Imagine how Democrats will “rescue” CT come the next recession. A good bet will be still another tax hike to “preserve public services” aka public union jobs.
    Candidate foley understands basic economics and finance. Would that CT citizens have a similar understanding.

  4. Joe

    Pazniokas and Maddow both got this story all wrong. Foley exposed another Malloy failure and the democrats showed up to interrupt him, shout him down and intimidate him; all to hide the truth.

    Here’s a link to the 30 minute press conference
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA9MAwbcRu4&feature=youtu.be

    Check out the hysterical democrat boss Osten. She’s both mayor and senator up there! She just keeps screaming and interrupting. She’s so rude, And check out the guys in t-shirts who stand too close to candidate Foley. What, are they trying to scare him? I know I’d be scared looking at those guys so close.

    I like Foley, He’s got backbone and he’s polite and mild-mannered.

    The democrats have mistakenly posted this link. It clearly demonstrates their crude and unreasonable politics.

  5. Suzanne

    Joe, thank you for posting the YouTube interview. It is very revealing.
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    At first, with his spiel, I thought maybe Mr. Foley had something substantive to say. Then when the constituency as opposed to the press, the very people affected by the plant closure, start asking questions, he pulls his substantial business experience out of his hat and says, “You have failed. You have failed to keep the jobs here”, blaming the victims of the downturn who seem to understand the parent company’s asset management better than Mr. Foley.
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    He needs to check his arrogance at the door if he is to be a successful candidate. It is unreal that he would blame the first selectwoman, who did not scream but persisted in her questioning when Mr. Foley continued to talk over her, for losing those jobs, extending Malloy policies to a Town Council. Give me a break.
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    If his knowledge of business is so great, he ought to know that politics is a bit different: you have to treat people with respect. That workers were there questioning what he would do in this case is all within the line of constituency query and their right.
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    One made the point that Mr. Foley called the press conference: does this mean he is not prepared to listen to those directly affected by the closure or, more importantly, of their knowledge of what happened to them and why?
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    I watched, in full, the Bond Commission meeting last week and couldn’t believe my ears with that either: money raining down for every good cause (and questionable ones including sports fields and Oak Hills) like so many snowflakes creating a fiscal blizzard of total irresponsibility.
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    So far, I don’t see any good choices in this gubernatorial election (I will take suggestions outside of these two) – as always, it feels like a vote between bad and worse.

  6. One and Done.

    So according to Suzanne, Foley is supposed to have an MBA level analysis on this specific plant and the specific transaction. How dare he generalize the economic situation in CT and tie it to Malloy’s policies on his campaign trail. After all he’s running for first selectman of Sprague, correct?
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    Suzanne wants us to believe she will just not hold her nose and vote Democrat every single time like she always does.
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    The first selectwoman sounds like a real doozy. If the business were profitable and financially sound, someone would keep it there. It is not. Why is that? I think Foley hit on some of the reasons from a macroeconomic view and some will just have their predisposed opinion of Republicans, regardless of what policies they might be advocating.

  7. potaxpayer

    Foleys got my vote

  8. Suzanne

    Just silly. If you listened to the recording at all, the people most affected by this closing know that a group of investors moved the plant equipment, sent it to the Midwest thereby gutting their ability to complete 17 backlogged orders. Presumably, the investors did this for pure profitability, which the plant, according to spokespeople at Foley’s conference, was making but the investor group wanted more. They could just as well have sent the equipment to China which Foley briefly mentions as the alternative for many corporations because it is cheaper for industry there. How is that better for business in CT?
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    This was not a partisan bicker-fest. Rather, Foley went to a specific location to slam business policies (which I also think Malloy has badly bungled, by the way) using a location he apparently knew very little about then blamed the people most affected for the job loss.
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    Everyone touts Foley as this brilliant business man who will lead CT out of the business climate desert to manna. If that is the case, he should have been more responsible in either choosing the location for his talking points or listened better to the circumstances he placed himself in. Arrogant blaming will not help him in the polls.
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    I have no interest in the partisanship even though it seems to be in your interest, One and Done, to put me there. Rather, I believe in pragmatic thinking based on evidence. I believe in respect for the constituents and I sure as heck believe in receptivity, patience and responsibility toward small business people and the voters who represent them.
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    Mr. Foley did not show the knowledge of the issue but wanted to use the issue for his own political gain. The least he could have done was the research about the company’s circumstances and the workers. Otherwise, he is showing the worst kind of politicking.
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    You may have noted he could list all of the things wrong with the various acronymed CT government business programs but had very little to offer as solutions to these misguided efforts.
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    And I won’t have to hold my nose to vote for either of the front runners as neither impress me at all. (Although I think Malloy, as I mentioned earlier in my comment about the Bond Commission, is leading us down a dangerous fiscal path with a lot of debt deferral among many other things.)
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    But, One and Done, you seem to have this weird need to put those who do not share your specific viewpoint down. That is too bad. I have had many a constructive conversation with people who think differently than I do (in particular with the gun lobby post Sandy Hook.) You might try it. You may even learn something.

  9. John Hamlin

    The public is tired of both the Democratic and Republican administrations from the last 20 years — and the general Assembly — spending and taxing us into oblivion while pouring money into the Public employee union coffers (think Jimmy Hoffa not Norma Rae). But at this point I think every governor, every senator, and every representative needs to be ousted after one term if they don’t vote in a fiscally responsible way. Eventually someone will get the message. Unless the public is happy with economic disaster and mediocre government. Right now it looks like the voters will settle for the status quo.

  10. One and Done.

    Yeah, I watched the whole recording. An unflappable Foley against a raving lunatic of a Malloy supporter. I thought he showed great restraint. The woman was basically accusing him of not doing the governor’s job when the man isn’t even governor. Typical of a northeaster liberal. Taking absolutely no responsibility for any part of her own failures and desperate for a republican and greedy capitalists to blame for all her woes. Not for a second has it ever entered into her mind the high cost of doing business in this state is what is killing us. Time to let the grownups run things again and right this ship. Foley may not be all things to all people. But, it is time to end the fiscal insanity and the destructive economic policies of team Malloy.

  11. sofaman

    The amount of sheer economic ignorance shown by Mr. Foley and his apologists here is staggering. The “if the profits were greater than the equipment in the plant, they’d be open” is offered up as a legitimate excuse. There’s so much vagueness in that statement, yet it’s passed off as correct ‘business speak’. Lots, and lots and lots of profitable companies have been sold off by Investment firms and Hedge funds who are purely looking for the quick buck. Sell the assets, sell the property, fire everyone, collect the cash, move on. It’s happened over and over and over again.

    He gave a press conference in a district he has no knowledge of and got schooled.

    I can understand, and even appreciate the Republican perspective on many issues, but the woefully inept candidates they scrape together is just shocking.

  12. EastNorwalkChick

    Sometimes I wonder if I’m reading and comprehending something totally different than some of the posters here.
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    From CT News Junkie:
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    “Others agreed that the 145 lost jobs were not a fault of the Malloy administration but of the company owners, who decided to sell the mill’s largest and most fundamental piece of equipment to a paper mill in Indiana, and were therefore left inoperable.
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    “The company decided that they would rather make money as an international investment firm, and not a company that holds onto their workers,” Osten said. “Personally, I think they got paid to take it offline.””
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    This will be Foley’s “47%”….

  13. One and Done.

    […} By [sofaman’s] logic, he would prefer a CD that pays 0% as opposed to 2%. By his logic businesses are willing to lose money. By his logic we have a majority of clueless individuals making policies in this state that have put us at or near the bottom in every major ranking. Sofaman for governor.

    This post was edited to comply with our comment policy.

  14. One and Done.

    ENC. Hint: the regulatory costs in CT are higher than IN. Get it?
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    “Others agree that Malloy had nothing to do with it.”
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    And others who have a clue know that he is a very significant part of the why.

  15. anon

    @East Norwalk Chick, A company sells its most ‘fundamental piece of equipment’ and you don’t see how Malloy and the Democratic legislature with its anti-business attitudes had a part to play in it?

    Connect the dots.

    “Others agreed that the 145 lost jobs were not a fault of the Malloy administration but of the company owners, who decided to sell the mill’s largest and most fundamental piece of equipment to a paper mill in Indiana, and were therefore left inoperable.”

  16. sofaman

    O&D, you have a magnificent opportunity before you. Instead of making up nonsense, you can right the wrong done at Mr. Foley’s failed press conference by actually coming to the discussion with facts. What exactly has changed under Malloy’s watch to cause this plant to close? Why haven’t these actions caused the other paper plants in CT to close?

    In 1980 there were 635 paper and paperboard plants in the US. In 2010 there were 352. Was it the actions of governors in all the the various red and blue states that caused this massive consolidation? Have you been a customer of commercial paper for the last 35 years like I have? Do you know anything about this topic at all?

    “Foley acknowledged he had done no close analysis of Fusion, other than reading what had been published in the press.”

  17. One and Done.

    @Sofaman. So that explains Northrup Grumman leaving here and Sikorsky firing 900 people and UBS in Stamford firing 3,000 and 0.2% economic growth in the state in a total of four years. A student of Finance 101 you are obviously not. I never said Malloy was completely to blame and neither did Foley if you bothered to watch the video. The point made is that Malloy’s policies are making the decisions to shutter here a lot easier. You will obviously try to seal this state’s doom by sending this loser back to Hartford. Some of us are considering our alternatives. I for one am not going to sit by and watch Norwalk turn into the next Bridgeport, which seems to be the goal of every Democrat in the state. Another 4 years like the last and I will definitely be moving my business.

  18. Suzanne

    I DID watch the video and Foley expressed several times that it WAS Malloy’s failed policies that were COMPLETELY to blame. He is being a politician – if he didn’t say that, it would look like he was equivocating which he cannot do as an opponent. You, Mr. One and Done, need to take a course not only in Finance 101, separate from the lens of partisanship, but also a course in basic Politics 100. It would be a shame for you to move your business – your comments here add so much to solving CT’s problems.

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