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Norwalk tax assessor’s office: St. Matthew has 14x acreage as Al Madany

The 2003 survey map of the St. Matthew property on Scribner Avenue, with the flagged wetlands shown in blue, the asphalt shown in grey, the CL&P right-of-way in light purple and the three buildings in Mulberry. Green is presumed landscaping. The dots represent trees.
The 2003 survey map of the St. Matthew property on Scribner Avenue, with the flagged wetlands shown in blue, the asphalt shown in grey, the CL&P right-of-way in light purple and the three buildings in Mulberry. Green is presumed landscaping. The dots represent trees.

NORWALK, Conn. – Much of the 21.5 acres owned by St. Matthew Church is wetlands or a Connecticut Light & Power right-of-way, a 2003 survey map shows.

The church, which is just 1.5 street miles away from the mosque proposed for 127 Fillow St. by the Al Madany Islamic Center, is often compared with the would-be mosque in terms of the relationship of its building and pavement area to the overall acreage. Norwalk Tax Assessor’s Office Assessment Data Technician Laurie Tallcouch is adamant in that the church owns 21.5326 acres at its 216 Scribner Ave. location. This compares to 1.5 acres owned by the Al Madany Islamic Center, but it’s not that simple.

A Nancy On Norwalk reader asserted Monday that there’s the church and then the “huge property next door that is also owned by St. Matthew’s,” both included in that 21.5 acres.

“It is the entire property, church, rectory, chapel, etc. as delineated by survey map 12491 that was filed on 10/16/2003 in the Town Clerk’s office,” Tallcouch said in an email.

The field card available in the tax assessor’s offices say that St. Mathew owns 2.52 acres. That is due to a mistake made by Vision Government Solutions in the recent revaluation, Republican Town Committee Chairman Pete Torrano said last week.

Tallcouch confirmed there was an error. “I have corrected the information internally but the external public website has not yet been updated,” she wrote.

The field card says that St. Matthew owns 2.52 acres, which has an assessed value of $503,370 and an appraised value of $719,100. There is 90,000 square feet of asphalt, the field card says.

St. Matthew was initially constructed in 1960 and has had a series of additions, including the 7,433 square feet of church space and 3,295 square feet of classroom/office space added in 2003, for which the survey map posted above was done.

The map has been colored in to show the flagged wetlands, the pavement and the CL&P right-of-way.

There are three buildings on the property. The oldest was built in 1930 and has 6,923 square feet of gross area and 4,197 square feet of livable area, according to the field card. Another building was built in 1984 and has 1,606 square feet of gross first floor space, 1,406 of gross cathedral space and 70 square feet of gross space in an utility enclosed porch. The living area is described at 1,606 square feet, the first floor space.

The main building was built in 1960 and has 43,839 square feet of gross space and 30,047 square feet of livable space, as previously reported.

The total “livable” area is therefore 38,576 square feet. This compares to 21,800 square feet of usable space in the proposed mosque plan, which includes both the prayer hall and the community space.

Information on the total acreage of buildable land at St. Matthew is not available. The survey map shows that the far left corner of the 2003 addition is 107 feet from the flagged wetlands. The closest the wetlands come on the right side is 127 feet. 

The Al Madany Islamic Center would take up 23.88 percent of the lot at 127 Fillow St. Zoning regulations allow for using 25 percent of the lot.

St. Matthew parish numbers more than 2,400 families, according to the church website. Al Madany has 100 families in its membership, sources say. 

There are 250 parking spaces at St. Matthew, according to the survey map. The mosque plan calls for 135 parking spaces.

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5 responses to “Norwalk tax assessor’s office: St. Matthew has 14x acreage as Al Madany”

  1. Don’t Panic

    Vision Government Solutions made a mistake? I’m Shocked! Shocked I say!

  2. EastNorwalkChick

    OK, St. Matthews has 2,400 families and 38,576 of “livable space” and Al Madany Islamic Center has 100 families and 21,800 of “livable space”, big difference in the number of people per square footage here.
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    Has anyone ever asked A Madany why they need a building this big for the number of congregants that they have? Do they expect more families to join?

  3. EveT

    Making a mistake that converts 21.5326 acres to 2.52 acres is pretty serious.

  4. Neighbor

    The survey you show for Saint matthews that was filed in 2003 when the last expansion occurred shows a parking lot much smaller than what is actually there, because it doesn’t show the large paved area with about 50 spaces behind the church where woods were on the survey. Saw that on GoogleEarth. Just curious if that extra parking expansion was ever approved by wetlands and planning commissions, and is that expansion included in the 90,000 square feet of asphalt containing 250 parking spaces that you researched? Did the church expand their parking without getting approvals, and if they did, is that cool with the neighbors and the city? It’s not cool with me if they did. The traffic they create is a nightmare already, and everybody speeds to get to church on time.

  5. Oyster

    @neighbor,
    Not cool with it here either. Thanks for pointing that out. Wonder if the fine for adding dozens of newly paved parking spots is a multiple of what a homeowner gets slapped with for “illegally patching” a crack in their sidewalk.

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